Interview with Filmmaker Abdolreza Kahani: “We are Born Into Censorship”
JUNE 20, 2019
In Iran, the Ministry of Guidance and Islamic Culture imposes a
strict process of review and approval for all screenplays before films can be
legally produced in the country. Films that are produced also face censorship,
and directors are often ordered to remove certain scenes before the authorities
allow them to screen the film.
Prominent director Abdolreza Kahani migrated to France in 2015
after three of his films were banned in the Islamic Republic and he was
prevented from submitting them to international festivals. His films, which
focus on social issues in the country, had great commercial success but
“sometimes a filmmaker’s actions become more important than his films,” he told
the Center for Human Rights in Iran (CHRI) in a recent interview.
In March 2019, Kahani published a
handwritten letter online by the ministry demanding that he make changes and
cuts to his film, “Vaght Daarim Haalaa” (“We have time now”) before it could be
screened in Iran. He refused and decided to “document” the ministry’s rare step
of ordering him to self-censor in writing as opposed to doing so verbally. The
demands included, “delete scene of boy and girl in bed,” “delete scene of boy’s
leg on girl’s buttocks” and “delete kiss and statements by boy to doctor.”
All directors, artists, writers, and members of the press deal with
constant and arbitrary censorship in Iran enforced by the Ministry of Culture
and Islamic Guidance. Its restrictions include adherence to government-mandated
dress codes and removal of lines in a script that may be perceived as political
or critical of the government.
In July 2017, Kahani wrote an open letter to
film industry authorities arguing that censorship has been damaging Iran’s film
industry. But he told CHRI that the situation has only worsened under the
presidency of Hassan Rouhani (2013-present), who was voted into office
promising a more open society.
“Filmmakers always had issues with the Guidance Ministry but now
they have to deal with other agencies as well,” said Kahani. “In fact,
censorship has not gone away; it has become even worse.” Excerpts of the interview
follow.
CHRI: What kind of censorship do filmmakers encounter in Iran?
Which agencies are involved?
Kahani: First, the screenplay has to be submitted to the Culture and
Islamic Guidance Ministry. A censorship committee of eight or nine people will
review it. After the film is made, it has to be reviewed by the Screening
Permit Council.
But after the council issues a permit, many other authorities can
create problems, including the Islamic Propagation Organization (IPO), the
Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB), the municipality and others.
For instance, the IRIB could refuse to show the trailer [on national
TV] for certain films. Or the municipality could refuse to let it be shown at
theaters. Every organization will raise obstacles in any way they can.
Filmmakers always had issues with the Guidance Ministry but now they have to
deal with other agencies as well. In fact, censorship has not gone away; it has
become even worse.
CHRI: Are members of the review committees known by the filmmakers?
Are they themselves engaged in the film profession? Are they film critics?
Kahani: There is a department of the Guidance Ministry called the
Office for Overseeing and Evaluating Films. It is the censorship office, in
essence. They watch all the films. Some of them are permanent members and
others change with every new government. Some of them are filmmakers who like to
engage in censorship as well. That is one of the strange aspects of the film
industry in Iran.
The committee watches the films to ensure that the people would not
be “corrupted” by certain scenes. That always made me ask the question: How is
it that the censors themselves are not corrupted when they watch these films?
CHRI: Are censorship requests communicated verbally or in writing?
Kahani: Usually verbally because they do not want to put anything in
writing. From my experience of making eight films in Iran, I can say that in
almost every case I heard verbal criticism from officials from the Guidance
Ministry and other agencies. The police, the IPO, the Guidance Ministry, and
other authorities have all raised objections to my films.
Every time I tried to get a written document from them, I failed.
The only exception was when I was working abroad and could not go to the
Guidance Ministry in person to hear their objections. That is when, for the
first time, they submitted a list of things they wanted to be censored. I had
been waiting for this opportunity for years and I published it.
Sometimes a filmmaker’s actions become more important than his
films. I published the letter because I wanted to document it for the history
of Iranian cinema so that future generations could see how films are censored
in Iran and under what conditions they are made.
CHRI: Are there clear censorship guidelines that filmmakers have to
follow?
Kahani: Every filmmaker is censored differently; there are no set
rules. Those who are close to the authorities are treated differently than
those who are not. Some can cross imaginary red lines without experiencing any
problems. They are mostly filmmakers who make films that contain messages that
are favored by certain agencies.
I tried to make a film about the fashion industry but my request
was turned down. Then someone else made a film about the same subject and later
I found out that he was backed by government organizations. Later that same
director became a member of the Screening Permit Council.
There are no clear censorship parameters. For instance, if I wanted
to make a film about war, I am sure I would face a lot of problems. The
authorities are going to be suspicious of me and presume that I will try to
inject some evil plot.
A few years ago, I said in an interview that I am fundamentally
opposed to the Screening Permit Council. I said that the council should act as
a watchdog composed of sociologists and psychologists who could evaluate which
age group should be allowed to see each film. At the time, many criticized me.
Unfortunately, censorship is not just imposed by state agencies.
Censorship has become part of everyone’s lives in Iran. We are born into
censorship. Censorship affects not just literature, music and film. Censorship
begins inside the home. When we have to wear a headscarf to leave the house [as
all Iranian women are required to do], that means we are not being ourselves.
In Iranian society, even the religious people have to censor themselves or else
they would have difficulty getting a job in the private sector.
We are a people with lots of unspoken thoughts. As long as we
continue to practice self-censorship, the Guidance Ministry will remain part of
our society. In such a society, your colleague becomes a defender of
censorship, despite having suffered from censorship himself.
Some people in the film industry have realized that they have to
surrender to censorship in order to survive. It is unfortunate. It is these
kinds of things that are revolting to people like me. I have had many friends
who were not close to the state but have decided to become so.
I had a friend who became famous because of my films and then
shamelessly turned against me in order to please the Guidance Ministry and
others. My friend decided to agree with the Guidance Ministry’s policies in
order to make a living. There is no point working in a society where alcoholics
accuse you of drinking alcohol.
CHRI: In recent years, we have seen films with drunken characters
[drinking by Muslims is illegal in the Islamic Republic], less restricted
dialogue between men and women, and more relaxed observance of the
[state-mandated] hijab. Does that mean the red lines have faded?
Kahani: I have been making films outside Iran for some time. I
deliberately avoid reading about the film industry in Iran. If I ever went back
to make a film, I would try to stay away from the news and avoid contact with
the Guidance Ministry.
As far as I know, most of the films that have less restricted
dialogues are made by state or semi-state agencies. These films are made
according to the wishes of those agencies. There are producers that are
themselves part of the Guidance Ministry’s censorship apparatus. They have a
more open hand in making films that fit the mentality of the state. That does
not indicate the existence of more freedom in Iranian cinema.
CHRI: What restrictions do filmmakers who want to submit their work
to foreign film festivals face? Some Iranian films are blocked from being
screened inside the country but are permitted to be shown at foreign festivals.
What’s the process behind this?
Kahani: It is completely arbitrary. Sometimes the authorities grant
permission to screen a film in Iran and then they decide to prevent the same
film from being submitted to foreign festivals. Sometimes they will not let a
film be shown anywhere. The regulations governing the Iranian film industry are
very complicated. No one really knows how they work.
In my case, Mr. (Javad) Shamaghdari, who was in charge of the
Guidance Ministry’s film division, officially told me that I could not submit
my film “Heech” (“Nothing”) to foreign film festivals. Most of my films
suffered the same fate.
CHRI: What has the professional climate been like for filmmakers
under President Hassan Rouhani?
Kahani: For me, it has been worse than before. Today, if I submitted
proposals to make the same films I made in the past, I would be rejected. The
censors have gained a lot of experience and realized that they have to turn
down screenplays from the start and stop suspicious films before they are made.
Then they don’t have to deal with stopping the films from being shown.
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